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In line with PHIL FRIEDMAN's advocacy for "speaking up now", perhaps there would be value in articulating a key set...

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Posted by Peter Murchland (Discussions: 1, Comments: 47)
Replied on June 30, 2018 12:00 am
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With all due respect, Peter, and thanking you for the call-out, I have to say I think that approach would be counter-productive and engage us all in a prolonged (endless?) discussion in an attempt to achieve an elusive consensus. However, that does not mean I disagree with your implicit objective.

I'd like to suggest instead that each of us posts in this thread a list of our individual "top ten" tools, features, whatever we each would consider essential if we could only have ten. Then Christine or Samantha can have them objectively tabulated to establish the ten most-cited. Done. No pre-discussion. Just an automatic consensus, which we could then, as you suggest, present as a guiding manifesto to the Groups "team". Not that they would pay any attention. But at least the exercise will not divert us from seeing that Sophie Bonnet is not engaging with LIGOMMs in any meaningful way.

Cheers!
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Posted by PHIL FRIEDMAN (Discussions: 1, Comments: 18)
Replied on June 29, 2018 8:00 pm
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Both activities
a) articulating and identifying shared requirements
b) articulating key principles
contribute to the implicit objective, and neither needs to be counter-productive or prolonged.
Happy to run with your proposed activity first as it will make my proposed activity even easier than I had anticipated.
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Posted by Peter Murchland (Discussions: 1, Comments: 47)
Replied on June 30, 2018 8:00 pm
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I only have two PHIL FRIEDMAN and Sophie Bonnet:

1. All of the Group Admin tools that were removed back in October 2015 need to be give back to Group Admins ASAP. That will help fix Sophie's posting about spam management - there is significantly more spam in groups since Group Managers lost those tools!
2. The capacity of Group Members to be able to adjust the position of groups in their My Groups list needs to be returned. We used to be able to do this so I would put the most interesting groups (generally smaller) at the top of the list. Now, they are in order of the number of new conversations, which means we have to go down several screens to get to the most interesting groups!

Once that has been done, we can talk about what groups need to improve in the future!
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Posted by John Marrett (Discussions: 0, Comments: 5)
Replied on June 30, 2018 8:00 pm
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As a reminder, it's necessary to break these "Top Ten" down to discrete units. No compound requirements, John Marrett. Okay, here are my nominees, in no particular order of preference:

1. The ability for a group member to elect to be notified by email when a new comment appears in a conversation thread he or she is following.

2. The ability for a group member to receive a summary of new conversations posted in the group, either daily, weekly, or not at all.

3. Daily notifications to group owners and managers that there are posts waiting in the moderation queue and membership requests waiting in the membership queue and the option to receive such notifications via email.

4. The ability to designate a group "private" with membership subject to approval, and to require that only members can post new conversations to the group.

5. The ability for group owners and managers to filter posts for topicality and to delete those deemed unsuitable to the group.

cont... Pt. II

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Posted by PHIL FRIEDMAN (Discussions: 1, Comments: 18)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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Pt. II ...
6. The ability for group owners and managers to place members on local moderation and, after warnings concerning inappropriate activity, permanently remove and block them from posting and/or membership.
7. The ability for group owners and managers to opt out of (or switch off) LinkedIn auto-moderation, and to block LI from changing any of the group's local member settings.
8. The ability for group owners and managers to elect to have a "Promotions" tab for posts that are primarily promotional in nature, but relevant to the group's mission and sphere of interest.
9. The ability for group owners and managers to "Feature" or pin a discussion at the top of the group discussions page.
10. A structure that enables group owners to monetize their activities in growing, nurturing, and managing popular groups.
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Posted by PHIL FRIEDMAN (Discussions: 1, Comments: 18)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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Posted by Samantha Bailey (Discussions: 1, Comments: 7)
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A properly working search function for the members list, from where you can not only change posting permissions, but also block people.

The block function back in the list of items to be moderated (either flagged by LinkedIn, a member from the group, or because (violating) member is still on the moderation list.

The option to put new members by default on an X-days moderation.

REMOVE the option for members to -without interference of a group owner or moderator- to invite and accept other people.

Unlimited characters in thread comments.

Option to sort threads in groups. Most active threads, and threads that have just been replied to, move to top.
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Posted by Arno Enzerink (Discussions: 0, Comments: 1)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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I like Phil's top 10 but I did not see where I can make the group a moderated group globally. Moderation needs to be from a coarse adjustment all the way to a fine adjustment at the individual level.
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Posted by John Jones (Discussions: 360, Comments: 3031)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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John Jones I don't believe you can do it anymore. What I have been doing is:

- for small groups going through and manually putting every member of the group except known positive contributors on moderation.
- for large groups, as soon as I approve people, click on members, sort by join date and put all new members on moderation

You can handle one page at a time and put everyone on that page on moderation.

As people prove themselves, they can be taken off moderation.

It was a ton of work but worth it.
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Posted by Anne Thornley-Brown MBA (Discussions: 1, Comments: 9)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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Man I dunno. I have given my feedback so many times over the years it become exhausting. Leave it with me. I will work on it.
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Posted by Anne Thornley-Brown MBA (Discussions: 1, Comments: 9)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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Anne Thornley-Brown MBA There are several ways to engage in this activity. I expect that there will be a core of requirements held in common by many OMMs. Then there will be others that are specific to different classes of group, sometimes being in conflict, other times just being "different". Then there will be those that are relatively unique / distinctive.

On the assumption that there will be a portion in common that are not even being delivered effectively by the LI Group platform, you can probably afford to "wait a while" and see what emerges. Then, you only need to give attention to the "things that have been missed".
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Posted by Peter Murchland (Discussions: 1, Comments: 47)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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It's okay I'll tackle it when I have moment.
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Posted by Anne Thornley-Brown MBA (Discussions: 1, Comments: 9)
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All must haves:

1) Nesting replies

2) Sort conversations by most read, most commented, newest conversation, newest commented .

3) Group statistics based on: member breakdown (where are they located, what industries are they in); growth and engagement (membership growth/retention/attrition, ratio of conversations to comments)
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Posted by Chris Herbert (Discussions: 0, Comments: 6)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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Anne Thornley-Brown MBA, My Linkedin group has 75,000 members and I had an off-shore contractor go through and put everyone on moderation back in 2015 after they got rid of the group global moderation. All new members are immediately set to moderation. My group has absolutely no spam. The whole thing was a very unpleasant experience and caused me to move my group off of Linkedin. I really hope they fix Linkedin groups but I won't be coming back except to engage with peers and recruit them into my off-site group. My off-site group is much larger ( > 200K members) and much more engaged than it ever was on Linkedin.
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Posted by John Jones (Discussions: 360, Comments: 3031)
Replied on July 1, 2018 8:00 pm
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Hi John Jones interesting information, what is the software or social did you used for your group now?
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Posted by Enrico Filippucci (Discussions: 0, Comments: 10)
Replied on July 4, 2018 8:00 pm
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