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Validity of source
The source for the statement that "Historically, Germany has been called Das Land der Dichter und Denker ('the land of poets and thinkers') […]" doesn't explicitly state that this expression has a valid historical background, thus failing verification. In fact, I sometimes even read and hear that „Land der Dichter und Denker“ is a relatively modern self-referential term used primarily by Germans to refer to themselves, rather than a historically grown international reputation, e.g. here. Therefore, I suggest finding a better source, which supports the statement, or changing the sentence accordingly. Maxeto0910 (talk) 19:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
See references of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichter_und_Denker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.142.117.212 (talk) 06:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Germany is the third largest economy by GDP not the fourth
Should be changed in the title section. WIKI Wizard of Wales (talk) 01:25, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for that claim? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2024
I saw wrong information and I wanted to fix it PepigeonLOL (talk) 05:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- What wrong information specifically? Nikkimaria (talk) 05:13, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
total 17 million people were systematically murdered
This incorrectly paraphrases the linked Holocaust Wikipedia page that does not claim this bottom line and the paragraph that could be misinterpreted this way is itself debated at length in the Holocaust talk page for being a misinterpretation of sources. Even with the passive voice only insinuating that the German Government would be the one murdering entity (see the talk page of the Wikipedia Holocaust page for details), the bigger problem is the claim of 'systematic' murdering of 17 million.
The Holocaust is understood to stand out for the fact that it was premeditated and systematic. It is not a service to the victims to blur the boundaries by redefining its scope. There is a reason the word originates from 'fire sacrifice'.
The 17 million figure is three times higher, counting unconnected atrocities in. The way it is stated here is original and not claimed by anyone anywhere. That's why it doesn't have a source except pointing to the Wikipedia page. But the Holocaust page it links to also isn't phrasing it this way. 46.142.117.212 (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I edited the section to more clearly reflect how the number was derived, and User:Nikkimaria was so kind to correct my source usage. The main issue with it was that it was unreliable, and the number of 17 million was derived by accounting for soviet civilian deaths, without counting any other allied civilian deaths.
- The edited section now no longer refers to '17 million'; maybe somebody should include the overall death tolls of the conflict, though. (Citing a reliable source, of course...) JackTheSecond (talk) 11:07, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
world ranking of the German economy in the intro text
the world ranking of one countrys economy in its wiki page intro text is wiki standard. can I use it in the German intro text and add "world´ third biggest"? BauhausFan89 (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- The article is at FA level thus follows WP:COUNTRYLEAD that recommends we don't duplicate data that's in the info box (no need 3 times in one article)....other examples Canada or Japan Moxy- 15:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Regarding Demographics Section
The paragraph below that is taken from the section of demographics regarding the topic of immigration in Germany illustrates the potential for confusion when the terms 'migrants' and 'refugees' are used interchangeably:
'After the United States, Germany is the second-most popular immigration destination in the world. In 2015, following the 2015 refugee crisis, the Population Division of the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs listed Germany as host to the second-highest number of international migrants worldwide, about 5% or 12 million of all 244 million migrants. Refugee crises have resulted in substantial population increases.'
This conflation is problematic as it does not address the distinctions between legal and humanitarian statuses of refugees and migrants, and uses them as though they signify the same concept. 78.179.1.222 (talk) 00:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Refugees are a subcategory of migrants; what this section seems to suggest is that this subgroup has driven an overall rise in immigration rates. Do you have sourcing to suggest otherwise? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think what IP is objecting to is that the statement 'Refugee crises have resulted in substantial population increases.' is an unsourced addition, and editorializing by whomever added it in. I concur. JackTheSecond (talk) 01:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- The claim appears to be supported by the following source, and could be supported by additional sources if necessary. What leads you to believe it is editorializing? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think what IP is objecting to is that the statement 'Refugee crises have resulted in substantial population increases.' is an unsourced addition, and editorializing by whomever added it in. I concur. JackTheSecond (talk) 01:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Wanting to insert pictures about German architecture.
I want to insert 2 pictures about German architecture; one of the Quedlingburg old town as the former ruling city of the first German kings and one of the Berlin modern architecture complexes. both sites are world heritage sites and show the the brigth spectrum of the history behind German architecture. I can use the set template which includes 2 pictures about German art. that fits totally in the site´s code and design. can I do that as described? BauhausFan89 (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- No. Wikipedia articles are not repositories of images; that short section already includes two images, and adding two more overwhelms the text and displaces the images from other sections. There are main article links by which further illustrations can be accessed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, but as I showed with my post the other images in the following articles dont get displaced and the text fits nicely beside the 4 images in one frame. you can see that in the old edit. BauhausFan89 (talk) 14:20, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- My comment is based on the version in your old edit. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)