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Hi. Is there a generic term for the incident that the media are using? We could use that for the title eg. "Police beating media controversy", but more specific. zzz (talk) 03:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Let me try another title. You are welcome to change it. Benjwong (talk) 03:45, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the new "Police brutality" title, although it's not perfect. But, I honestly don't see the value in lumping the section together with "triad & recruitment" - I don't see the connection there. If there is a connection, it's far too obscure IMO.zzz (talk) 04:00, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But is all about domestic control/handling/side effects something in that category. I think they are very related though I'll admit the title is so so. Benjwong (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean. I'll leave it, then!zzz (talk) 04:07, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think they should be linked together, the connection is too obscure and POV. Sections should be allowed to stand on their own merits. zzz (talk) 04:48, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps incorporate "Police brutality media respins" into chronology? zzz (talk) 04:52, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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@Shizhao: Tag removed The source is quite obvious (The TV series itself), and I've converted it into a standard {{Non-free use rationale title-card}} which sets the source field by default. Actually, there's absolutely no need to tag the file if the problem can be easily fixed yourself. Zhaofeng Li [talk ♦ contribs] 04:38, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The article 2009 Hong Kong Broadcasting Authority forum has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable and now forgotten news event. All (but one archived) sources are dead. Other than that, most of these are uncited.

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The article 2010 TVB monopoly case has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Per WP:NOTNEWS. Non-notable scandal

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