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Your reversion of my edit to "Fighting Vanguard"
Greetings and felicitations. The change to the en dash was per MOS:RANGE, and the "language=enm" was a mistake I made when I didn't move the "m" with the rest of the book's title—thus the "Conundru". Most of the rest of the edit was to aid editing in the future, in part by putting reference fields in the order in which they are displayed. —DocWatson42 (talk) 08:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Edit: Link. —DocWatson42 (talk) 08:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Books & Bytes – Issue 61
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Io
Buidhe, would this page need an featured article review? It has 12 citation needed tags. 750h+ (talk) 16:40, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, 750h+, it does look like some work is needed to bring it in compliance with the FA criteria. If you have any concerns you should post on the talk page, and add a listing to WP:FARGIVEN so that FAR regulars know of the issues—although it's not likely to be a priority while there are many FA-rated articles in worse shape. FYI to igordebraga who recently nominated this article as part of a good topic. (t · c) buidhe 16:52, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- You raised that issue in February 2022, in a talk page topic titled "FA sweeps". 750h+ (talk) 16:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, but that was two years ago and a lot may have changed since then—there is no longer an entry on the FARGIVEN list. A fresh notice is needed. (t · c) buidhe 17:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Serendipodous: and @Volcanopele: are more involved with the article than me, calling their attention. igordebraga ≠ 21:14, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- put in some work to clear the citation needed's in the the Io article. Couldn't clear the one about the alternative pronunciation. I would look for something that talks about the British pronunciation, I know in the past ee-OH was common over there but I think European researchers are switching more and more to the American pronunciation. The other one is about the size of Jupiter in Io's sky. Seems like that should be easy to find but that's not in my wheel house. I've also taken up removing some extraneous images (can happen when people just slap any new photo in there not knowing if it is a good fit or not). I also cleaned up the Juno section to reflect the fact that the flybys have now happened. Sorry this is taking so long. Wikipedia apparently doesn't like iCloud Relay. Volcanopele (talk) 05:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Serendipodous: and @Volcanopele: are more involved with the article than me, calling their attention. igordebraga ≠ 21:14, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, but that was two years ago and a lot may have changed since then—there is no longer an entry on the FARGIVEN list. A fresh notice is needed. (t · c) buidhe 17:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- You raised that issue in February 2022, in a talk page topic titled "FA sweeps". 750h+ (talk) 16:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Edict of Expulsion
I guess it would be out of your normal period, but I thought you might be interested to read Edict of Expulsion and maybe give feedback at the FAC review if you felt like it. I'm particularly in need of someone to help with checking the copy for readability and clarity, etc. Jim Killock (talk) 07:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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Denaturalization
The reason I considered the statement controversial is that it makes multiple nontrivial technical and legal assumptions, which I had been reading about for non-editing-related reasons quite recently. For starters, we have here a clearly pro-Palestine source…implying that the State of Israel is the sole legal successor to the Mandate? As far as I know no one, not even the Israeli government itself, claims that.
I’m not at all averse to a mention of the displacement of Palestinians, but I don’t believe the original version as originally sourced was appropriate for wikivoice. My hunch based on past experience was that when editors openly cite POV academics in any area, it tends to be because they can’t find anything better.
So if you can find better sources for the original wording of the statement, be my guest. If you have a rewording, great. Either way, I’d rather deal with this and move on as it was a drive-by edit and the last thing I want is to be dragged into a PIA furball.
Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- What I'm missing here is 1) any evidence that the statement is disputed 2) any indication that the source's reliability is in question (technically all sources have "bias", so perceived bias is not necessarily a reason to disregard what the source says). Just removing reliably sourced content based on your POV and vague assertions of controversy isn't the way to go, imv. (t · c) buidhe 08:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm well…
- 1. I just did a fairly extensive (albeit by no means exhaustive) series of searches on engines, Google Scholar, and elsewhere. I came up with relatively few results, and the only one that discussed the matter at any length was this one:
- [1]
- A nonprofit org interviewing the same academic who wrote the book being cited.
- So I’d say there isn’t enough basis in reliable sources. Especially as the claims being made in the cited work make a lot of contentious and unstated assumptions about the ramifications of the Mandatory period, some of which, if articulated, would not themselves find support in RS.
- (Oh, and by the way, the top result for “denaturalization of palestinians” was about the contemporaneous expulsion Iraqi Jews. Which, indicates that the field of results was sparse enough that the engine had to split the input up into keywords even if those keywords were not linked in the text).
- So without clearer sources, this seems to be just yet another case a case of some editor inserting contentious and insufficiently sourced examples in an article that doesn’t actually need them. We get a lot of that in Russia–Ukraine.
- 2. Have you looked at the source in question? It’s a pretty standard specimen of academic methodology being directed towards the propagation of a particular cause, i.e. highbrow POV.
- Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 12:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are plenty of other sources that discuss the denaturalization and/or statelessness of Palestinians, this for instance. I have yet to see any evidence that the fact is disputed or that the source is not reliable for the content it supports. (t · c) buidhe 19:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but denaturalization is not the same thing as statelessness. Denaturalization is an act and statelessness is a condition. Let me go read what you linked. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like the statement is sufficiently novel that explicit contradictions of it are not easily searchable.
- Israeli citizenship law#Post-1948 transition and History of Palestinian nationality#Post-Mandate and the references cited there provide good starting points and, in contradicting the statement contested here, presumably set forth the mainstream position.
- The article you linked was interesting. The guy is clearly well versed in his field and writes quite well. I actually read a bunch of his abstracts and even skimmed a couple of his other papers, out of sheer interest. Some of his academic positions are a little radical, but I found it engaging; my main critique is that he seems blithely unaware of potential countervailing points and opposing arguments. Anyway, cursory searches also bring up that he has extensive involvement as a consultant to multiple Palestinian organizations.
- (By the way…you see the problem? Unlike many other CT areas, virtually all academics have more or less taken a side. I haven't participated in very many ARBPIA discussions, mostly moves, but I imagine there is quite a lot of source bashing all around. Or at least I hope they do that instead of getting all ugly.)
- In any event, the issue is that the article, narrowly speaking, is about a specific phenomenon, one that, apart from the previously discussed sources, doesn't seem to be directly related to the well-documented displacement of Palestinians. I personally am mainly annoyed at the fact that someone (didn't check blame) dragged contentious statements into an "examples" section yet again (I'm currently dealing elsewhere with an inexperienced CT cowboy, as I was barely a year ago, who had restored something analogous elsewhere in flagrant contravention of BLP rules). Among other things, this is a simply atrocious practice because it not only entails, but further encourages, the leakage of contentious topics into virgin territory. Deplorable, no?
- Anyway, if you aren't convinced, I have way better things to do than start a formal DR process, naturally. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 20:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome to your opinion, but I see no policy based reason to treat this case any differently than others mentioned in the article, such as those involving the breakup of the Soviet union and Yugoslavia. (t · c) buidhe 01:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well, so are you. Anyway, happy editing :)
- RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 07:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome to your opinion, but I see no policy based reason to treat this case any differently than others mentioned in the article, such as those involving the breakup of the Soviet union and Yugoslavia. (t · c) buidhe 01:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but denaturalization is not the same thing as statelessness. Denaturalization is an act and statelessness is a condition. Let me go read what you linked. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are plenty of other sources that discuss the denaturalization and/or statelessness of Palestinians, this for instance. I have yet to see any evidence that the fact is disputed or that the source is not reliable for the content it supports. (t · c) buidhe 19:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Greetings, since you did review Guallatiri at FAC I was wondering if you may be interested in Ojos del Salado too. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Clarification needed for a recent revert
I noticed your revert of an edit of mine on the Occupy Pedophilia article.
The older revision that I reverted to seemed to me to be based on information directly sourced from the article's first reference, a report from Human Rights Watch on homophobia in Russia, which was cited in that revision.
Quoting directly from that report: "Since late 2012, its members have harassed and attacked primarily gay people and children and in some cases also transgender women and gender queer individuals."
Could you please provide clarification on why you believe the revision prior to my edit was more accurate? Additionally, I would appreciate any suggestions you may have on what actions I could have taken instead. Sinerst (talk) 03:51, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, my bad: I confused the revisions and thought that I was restoring the content about it being anti-LGBT. The error has now been rectified. (t · c) buidhe 04:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, collegue. May I ask you to read this article and express your criticism? With respect, Smpad (talk) 18:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Soviet POWs
Since we are both blocked and apparently guilty of edit warring, we should instead include other editors to discuss the sources and what is accurate or not, instead of back and forth arguing without making progress. I see you pinged someone and I have asked someone else for input as well, hopefully this resolves the dispute. Reaper1945 (talk) 03:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)