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Looking at the recent talk page history

Is there any reason why we might choose to leave BHG's talk such a mess? People keep doing what they must do, which is notify an involved party. We keep reverting those changes. Perhaps an editing notice/warning. Perhaps full protection. It's nothing to me personally, but it feels wrong. BusterD (talk) 04:03, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The best technical solution is probably just to pblock Mason from the talk page. No social solutions will work because it's done via Twinkle which can't read. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather avoid any kind of block because this account is linked to me professionally. Mason (talk) 04:10, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly, I see nothing overtly wrong with Mason's edits and can't justify even a selective block. This issue is an extension of BHG's incredible pace as a category editor. Anytime we lose an editor with a million edits a year, there will be consequences when that editor becomes inactive for any reason. Mason, would you mind removing (in batches, perhaps) your own automated notices to her talk page after your edits have created them? You might link to this discussion when questioned about it. Pppery, do you think this would be a reasonable solution? As an alternative, are we required to remove such automatically created threads? It's possible this needs a more centrally located discussion. I'm open to solutions from you folks (or any helpful page stalker). Even as a retired editor, BHG's talk page sees more activity than almost anybody else's on the pedia. BusterD (talk) 13:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It might be possible to add a check to twinkle to skip adding the notice. In the meantime, I can try my best to uncheck the notice, as I think it's technically not mandatory to notify the page creator. Mason (talk) 16:51, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Photo of desk with rocking chair and bed.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Photo of desk with rocking chair and bed.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. — MATRIX! (a good person!)[citation unneeded] 11:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Celebration!
Thank you for fixing! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Hello, Pppery,

Thank you for drawing my attention to the broken redirect situation about the animals in the Bible article after it was moved without leaving a redirect. I saw those broken redirects not from the AnomieBOT's list but from a Quarry query I run so I didn't see the scope of the situation. Thank you for restoring some, I've taken care of the rest of them. I try to urge page movers to leave a redirect behind when they move an article so that the bots can fix the incorrect redirects but, in this case, it was my oversight as well. I appreciate your careful eyes. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. And this message interrupted me cleaning up another mess caused by careless page moving. Oh, well, that's Wikipedia. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NPP Awards for 2023

The New Page Reviewer's Iron Award

For over 360 article reviews during 2023. Well done! Keep up the good work and thank you! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy of Russia

Please return the editorial before you return. It was fine. Please review the article carefully. There's nothing criminal in it. Thank you. Hurfon (talk) 11:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. You're probably just another sock stirring trouble. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for helping with my edit requests! -- DannyS712 (talk) 00:45, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. User:G.W. Schulz created the article, and is currently blocked for a COI. The article is also a duplicate of Glynn Simmons. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You requested speedy deletion under WP:G5. That criterion only applies if someone is blocked, and then creates a sockpuppet and uses it to create pages in violation of the block, not if someone creates an article and is later blocked. A draft duplicating an article is not a reason for speedy deletion - feel free to redirect it to the article instead. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nadwi/Nadvi

Hello, Hope you’re fine! The Nadvi and Nadwi are the same page, is it possible to have two surname pages with just a spell difference? Kindly help me on this. Thank You — Quadrimobile(T · C 05:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You requested a Wikipedia:History merge, which doesn't make sense here. What you want to do is instead redirect one page to the other, assuming they are in fact duplicative (which isn't clear to me). * Pppery * it has begun... 05:39, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pppery The surname is used by associates of an Institution in India, and with both spellings some used Nadvi and some Nadwi, just a difference of (v or w). So i can make anyone of them a redirect to another? — Quadrimobile(T · C 05:46, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no interest in the content issue here: do whichever you feel makes sense to you. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:46, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this page, which you speedily deleted, has resurfaced as DaLi (singer). — Biruitorul Talk 15:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Papa2004#22 January 2024 * Pppery * it has begun... 16:27, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting edits by sockpuppet of LOCK177

Mr. @Pppery, can you revert a edits by a sockpuppet of LOCK177 on article page RCTI like in Special:Diff/1185395353...???? Thanks. 36.78.196.11 (talk) 22:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? The linked edit is by LOCK177 before they started socking, so there's no grounds to per-se revert it. And I have no idea why I specifically was asked this. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024

Do you often ping regulars over inadvertant isolated mistakes? Piece of friendly advice: Don't do that. Fix the mistake and move on. —ShelfSkewed Talk 05:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. I've been pinged myself for similar mistakes before so thought that was expected. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:51, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Article Creation

Hi @Pppery,

I hope this message finds you well. Recently, there was an interesting Wikipedia article about Dutch Indonesians that caught my attention. Unfortunately, it was created by a user involved in sockpuppetry, leading to its reversion.

I'm considering recreating the article under the article creation clause for a proper review. I believe it could be a valuable addition, given its relevance. What are your thoughts on this, and do you have any advice or insights?

Cheers, Kaliper1 (talk) 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No particular insights to share. I have no opinion on whether this could be a valid topic for an article, just noticed the trouble stirring while doing some NPP. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see. Thanks for the reply! Kaliper1 (talk) 03:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Rollback Barnster

The Rollback Barnster
Thanks for the continuous effort to rollback edits, especially on User talk:BrownHairedGirl and keeping that talk page neat and tidy. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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What paradigm?

Hi, re this - what paradigm is that? I watch all of the RfC listing pages plus both of Lego's user talk pages, and am not aware of any process to sort unsorted RfCs before Legobot sees them. Indeed, it's usually me that fixes unsorted RfCs, but I'm not online 24/7. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment#FRS bot speed, assuming that whoever migrates Yapperbot to K8S also changes the speed to once a day, and then that you check the list once any day. Anyway, AFAICT yapperbot was never using that section anyway since it parses the RfC tag for categories itself, so unless someone says {{rfc|unsorted}} it will never think of the RfC as unsorted. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christina Christian redirect request

You recently closed a request at Christina Christian as Not done to change the redirect and to wait for the AfD to finish. That AfD was closed as Keep and the redirect should be targeted to Christina Cewe. Thank you, Aspects (talk) 15:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done and I've also unprotected it. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


All the Joe Sanderses

Hi there Pppery - thanks for fixing Joe Sanders (double bassist) page. Sorry to be a pest but if you know how to remove the Wikidata page link to "Joe Sanders" the film tv and video game music composer from IMdB from the bassist's Wikidata page, would be awesome. No pressure of course. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhdshoes2 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, but I'm curious: who is https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5298457/ referring to? Joe Sanders has his own IMDB page at https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0761595/. Are there three Joe Sanderses? * Pppery * it has begun... 17:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template edit request on Template talk:Designation

Hi Pppery,

I requested an edit to the designation template to add a designation for Major cultural heritage sites under national-level protection (China). Can you please review it and add it to the list? It is quite a major designation considering the amount of cultural heritage sites in China. Thank you! Hi (talk) 12:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

The Template Barnstar
For your great work on the historic sites infobox, adding designations for months on end. Keep it up! Contributing to this encyclopaedia might get boring, but it is meaningful. Daftation (talk) 16:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

recently deleted "Gumn" page

Hi I saw that you deleted a page recently, Pakistani drama Gumn's, because the account that created wasn't legitimate of sort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumn

I was wondering if there was a way to review that decision from your part, considering that the page was itself quite well written and it was a project with some credibility (directed by one of the country's best known filmmakers, millions of YouTube views, etc)

Thanks.

Metamentalist (talk) 21:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've undeleted it. To be clear, per WP:PROXYING, editors who reinstate edits made by a banned or blocked editor take complete responsibility for the content, which would now be you. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:55, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, thanks for your understansing. ~~~~ Metamentalist (talk) 18:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

G6 decline on template documentation

Hey Pppery, you declined my G6 request on Template:Integrated development environments/doc, citing WP:!G6. Could you elaborate on why you did so? SWinxy (talk) 04:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because I don't see it as meeting any of the subcriteria listed under G6. Your personal assertion that a page is no longer necessary is not a reason for speedy deletion. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it to be, for uncontroversial maintenance, i.e. documentation housekeeping. This situation sits between the suggested reasons for using G6 and the explicit no-no's (Things that do not qualify for G6) in the not-G6 essay. G6 is expansive in its wording. Would you rather it go to TfD, which seems like too much bureaucracy for this? SWinxy (talk) 05:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that that term can be interpreted to mean anything, rendering the entire concept of enumerated speedy deletion criteria meaningless, hence I interpret it to mean (almost) nothing instead, and (almost) never G6 delete pages except for ones that fall under specific bullet points. So you have to take it to TfD, and I've done Special:Diff/1205677943 to make my thinking clearer for the future. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for your work on Wikipedia! Don't forget that there is no deadline and that Wikipedia can wait. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Iowa

hey! should i avoid using the Template:WikiProject Iowa? i wanted to update the various articles without the template since they're related to the wikiproject. thanks in advance! 🐦DrWho42👻 03:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're fine to use it, but you should substitute it as the documentation says, otherwise a bot has to clean up after you and was whining because you gave it too much work to do. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi There! I was just trying to clean these up, so my apologies for not choosing the right reasons. In this particular case, however, I must be missing something because the edit history only shows 4 edits, although the page was also moved once or twice. BCorr|Брайен 17:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page was created in 2011 as "Jonathon T. Reeves" (incorrectly spelled) by The Country Girl. Eastern but not so middle moved the redirect to "Jonathan T. Reeves" (correctly spelled), thus putting the history of that 2011 creation there. In my opinion "Jonathon T. Reeves" would be speedyable as implausible but it's not recently created, and "Jonathan T. Reeves" is recently created but not implausible and hence neither could be validly speedy deleted. On the others, you tagged Cerebrovascular arteriosclerosis (correctly spelled), which I don't think is implausible enough to speedy delete. I would have been (and still am) willing to R3 delete Cerebrovascular arterioscelerosis (incorrectly spelled), which you didn't tag.
The others were Israeli occupation of Jerusalem and Genocide against Gazans, which should be speedy deletable under G5 IMO, but that use of G5 is still being discussed so I'm not willing to delete them under that reason yet, forcing me to ignore the creator and assess their plausibility from a clean slate, and I consider neither to be over the R3 line. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your patience in explaining all this, Pppery! I've been around long enough that I try to balance being bold with being careful -- and I definitely am not on top of all the debates and developments in policy. -- Thanks again, BCorr|Брайен 18:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dab pages

I was wandering around doing gnomish stuff and tripped over this edit. What is the if statement for? It looks to me like — if nothing then do nothing else insert the standard DAB SD i.e. just insert the standard DAB SD — which seems a bit evil anyway – it being a secret sub-template. Why the need for the if? Help please — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 14:26, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I attempted to subst {{disambiguation cleanup}}, intending to get an auto-dated version, which produced that markup which wasn't wanted. I've fixed the underlying issue now in Special:Diff/1207322395. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. Thanks — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 15:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_6#Category:African-American_women_lawyers

Hi, could you explain how you got a merge consensus here? There were only 3 participants and I don't see a consensus at all. I provided sources which demonstrate that it passed WP:EGRS and neither participant provided a logical reason why it did not.--User:Namiba 15:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Category:Asian-American women psychologists was depopulated and deleted so a merge is impossible now.--User:Namiba 15:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is I had read thru several sources before I made the nomination. My impression from the literature was that there was not a defining intersection between occupation + race + gender for law. My impression was that law was like many other professions where being black and female were both disadvantageous. I did not come away with the impression that their were specific disadvantages at the intersection for the occupation itself. (from Mason's comment), to which you did not respond, not a logical reason? It looks like one to me. Fundamentally you made your case in that discussion but failed to convince either of the other participants, resulting in a consensus to merge. A 2:1 discussion is consensus to merge by default in my view.
Oh, and Category:Asian-American women psychologists was already merged by the bot. It seems, looking at the bot's contributions, that every single article in that category was also in Category:American women psychologists so there was no merging needed, but neither I nor the participants realized that until now. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:56, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I would not call it a logical reason. The sources clearly demonstrate a rather obviously defining intersection. I could have added more sources if necessary. Anyone who does their due-diligence before nominating would have seen the countless books and articles about the intersection: [Rebels in Law: Voices in History of Black Women Lawyers edited by John Clay Smith], [Black Women Lawyers Coping With Dual Discrimination by NINA BURLEIGH, Stephanie Benson Goldberg ABA Journal, Vol. 74, No. 6 (JUNE 1, 1988), pp. 64-68], [You Don't Look Like a Lawyer: Black Women and Systemic Gendered Racism By Tsedale M. Melaku]. I'd ask that you reopen the discussion and allow other users to comment. 2 hardcore deletionists ignoring the sources does not a consensus make.--User:Namiba 16:07, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, I've relisted it. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Namiba if you think it is so obvious, that " [t]he sources clearly demonstrate a rather obviously defining intersection", please explain WHY it is defining. I tried to make it very clear that I was open to having my mind changed. "Can you give specific examples? I am happy to change my mind, but I did not find any that were". I did not ignore the sources; I disagreed with your interpretation. Your argument right now, boils down to sources exist, therefore the intersection is defining. That's not a convincing argument. (Nor is it fair to characterize me as a deletionist, I create a fair number of categories, and oppose deletions often.) Mason (talk) 03:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Pppery,

I was coming across a lot of empty categories that were due to the outcome of this CFD discussion (they are mostly no longer empty any longer) and I noticed that this discussion wasn't "archived" properly. I would just do it myself but I'm not sure what tags to use, since I use XFDcloser, or where to put them. Since you know more about templates than anyone else I know here, I'm bringing it to your attention because it's probably a problem you can resolve in less than a minute.

I hope all is well with you and you are having a great weekend. It is cold and drizzly here in the Northwest, just a typical mid-February day with dreary weather! But spring is on the way. Take care, Liz Read! Talk! 02:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the closure format. On the empty categories, yeah, I did things in a weird order that left categories empty for a while, although I wasn't expecting it to take as long as it did and Murphy's law says it had to straddle the empty category report. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template parameters

Hi Pppery, I came to Wikipedia:Template namespace because I was looking for guidance on template parameters, i.e. whether to use named or positional parameters. My understanding is that we have generally moved to named parameters on all but the simplest of templates, but do you know if this is written down as a guideline anywhere? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:58, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not aware of any formal guideline stating that. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, okay, me neither. But I think some encouragement not to use positional parameters on complex templates might be sensible. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it depends a lot on context and how you define complex, and hence is not possible to write a generic guideline about. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bertram Fletcher Robinson

 – * Pppery * it has begun... 21:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Aafi hereby grants this Original barnstar to Pppery for their global contributions, and more recently passing an RfA here. I am glad and hope to keep seeing you around. ─ Aafī (talk) 03:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tristan Tate redirect thingy

My mistake. I hadn't noticed that it had extensive history. I will move it into draft position behind the current article, which I have accepted procedurally, in place of the current redirect in the draft position, which is a nothing, and then the nothing can be deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have indirectly tagged the categories by transcluding the template. I'd suggest directly editing the pages to trigger watchlist notifications. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because I was trying to be efficient and not make several hundred unnecessary edits that were going to be reverted anyway. Is anyone really going to be watching a category tree that was created only last year by one editor (who I did notify) and similarly populated only by editing a template? Unless there's an explicit consensus somewhere that template-transcluded tagging is insufficient, then I will keep doing that when nominating large trees. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's your choice. Just a suggestion. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:59, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For all your template work and admin work, you're one of the best editors we have. SWinxy (talk) 05:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cars (2006)

Hi. Fairly minor issue, but I happened to notice this recent redirect change of yours,[1] and I wouldn't think "Cars (2006)" should point to anything other than the 2006 film Cars. Just curious about the rationale behind the change. --DB1729talk 00:18, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's ambiguous with Cars (video game), which was also released in 2006. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey thanks. I actually bought and still own that game!:) I had a feeling I was missing something. DB1729talk 00:22, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Teaching Editing

Greetings Pppery Thank you for your response! I am new to Wikipedia editing (if you haven't parsed that yet, lol) and am trying to teach my students about editing so that we can improve pages on North American Indigenous people and culture. I have student tribal members interested in participating & I want to help them to assist them to learn to edit their tribal pages to correct incorrect assumptions, histories, etc. so I am learning how to Wiki-edit. XD If we drive you crazy on the Indigenous science page, just let me know and I will intervene. Thank you for all the work you clearly have done on Wikipedia! We need more folks like you. Best Lady3Eye, Sarah (Professor of Anthropology and Biology) Lady3Eye (talk) 20:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AWB

Hi, can you please remove "20 upper" and me on Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON, as I've changed my username. Thanks. Wolverine XI (den • 🐾) 05:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"it would have been preferable to realize you weren't supposed to link to an unreliable nonsense site, but whatever"

Thanks for helping out with the log entry, but out of curiosity, what are supposed to do for links to 'nonsense sites' in a column that, specifically, discusses and analyzes media coverage of Wikipedia? (it may be noted that it was only added to the blacklist on February 19, so not a thing that had been on-sight for twenty years) jp×g🗯️ 07:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you kind of have a point there. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pppery,

I don't know what's going on with the article but since you moved Neeraj Gupta (film producer) to it after the deletion of the previous article the edit history of the previous article now shows and is intermingled with the new article. This could become problematic because the current article is currently being discused at AfD (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Neeraj_Gupta_(3rd_nomination)) and looks likely to be deleted also. If/when that occurs presumably Neeraj Gupta (sculptor) will be moved to Neeraj Gupta as teh sculptor will be the only article left in that name and I'm concerned there might end up being an article with three edit histories colliding. TarnishedPathtalk 05:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is that Liz, equally confused, accidentally deleted the article and then undeleted it again, thus undeleting the origial deleted revisions. I didn't do anything about it since the article was about to be deleted, rendering my efforts moot, but unless another admin makes a mistake the two deleted articles will remain comingled in the deleted history and the article on the sculptor will be the only one in the undeleted history. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for the clarification. TarnishedPathtalk 03:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just moved the article after conclusion of the AfD and a whole bunch of history as shown up from before I created it. This is very odd. TarnishedPathtalk 03:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not odd at all. I deliberately history merged the revisions about the sculptor from the original hijacked article to your draft, since its creation was clearly a cut-paste from that version. This was the case before it was mainspaced and moved, too. The edits about the comedian and film producer remain deleted. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:42, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr. @Pppery, please delete these user pages such as User:Ayig2, User:Symphonium264 Ayam and User:Mi Mi Game because CSD G5. Thanks. 36.78.197.67 (talk) 13:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted the last two. Declined for the first one as there's no evidence they had any accounts prior to Ayig2 and hence the page was not created in violation of any specific block. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help of Administrator needed.

Hello! @Pppery In the article talk page of Matzoon, we are having a trouble over the interpretation of one specific source: [2]

in the source it says: Springer. p. 212 - "Matzoon (En); mazun (Fr, De); matsun, matsoni, maconi. Short Description: "Of Armenian origin; Georgia, Caucasus (USSR); traditional product; the milk of ewes, goats, buffalo, or cows or mixtures thereof; yoghurt like product traditionally made from boiled milk and an undefined starter culture; firm consistency and acidic flavor."

My interpretation of the source is that the author names the countries from where the origins of Matzoon/Matsoni is from, thats why he mentions Georgia, Caucasus(USSR), alongside Armenia.

My oppositions opinion is that because it doesn't say specifically "Of Georgian origin" and says Georgia, Caucasus that it doesn't need to be mentioned in the article that origins of Matsoni are also from Georgia.

My opinion is also also agreed by the European Union, Switzerland, United Kingdom through a bi-lateral agreement about Geographical Indications registration[3] who recognizes the patented copyright laws and geographical distribution indication of Matsoni.

"DESCRIPTION OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT AND RAW MATERIAL:

MATSONI is a Georgian traditional cultured milk product, which is prepared from the milk of cow, buffalo, goat, sometimes sheep or their mixing. The cultured milk fermentation gives the product named “Dedo”, which consists of bacterial strains, existed in the local area of Georgia.[4]

GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF PRODUCTION:

Obtaining, processing and fermentation of milk for MATSONI production takes place in the whole territory of Georgia. Fermentation for obtaining of cultured milk product occurs by the “Dedo” consisting of local bacteria strains."[5]

Also the opposition, who are allegedly Armenian nationalists refuse to accept other kind of sources which also call Matsoni as "Georgian yoghurt", they delete the any attempt of writing it as "of Armenian and Georgian origins" even tho legally Georgia has more claim over it.

The sources they deleted are following: [6][7][8]

Please help us resolve this issue. Thank you Lemabeta (talk) 15:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Admins have no special authority to resolve content disputes and I am not interested in enaging with this. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So what should be done? Lemabeta (talk) 06:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese eras

Hi @Pppery I recently created an account and have been browsing the wiki for a few days now. I noticed that when it comes to writing and editing articles related to Chinese eras, it is prohibited. Why is this category banned on Wikipedia? Ryue1566 (talk) 04:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not. One specific user who likes to edit Chinese eras was blocked from editing Wikipedia a while ago, and has repeatedly evaded that block using sockpuppets. They are banned from editing articles about anything Other people who are not evading any blocks are welcome to edit about the topic. Pppery (alt) (talk) 04:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the information. Have a great day. Ryue1566 (talk) 04:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Npp

@Pppery Review the page Joshua Mike-Bamiloye Thanks. Jutos222 (talk) 15:05, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't canvas random people to review your page - someone will get to it in due time. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shonan Bellmare kit evolution

I don’t want to get into an edit-war here so I’m just letting you know I’ve restored the kit evolution section at Shonan Bellmare. These sections are used for Japanese football clubs, you can check any others to confirm. Strictly speaking, they could be at Wikicommons with a link but I currently don’t have the time to transfer them all so for now if you could leave them there it would be appreciated. They’ve been a part of Japanese football club pages for years. Thanks! REDMAN 2019 (talk) 13:38, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those sections violate WP:NOTGALLERY. SportingFlyer T·C 13:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SportingFlyer:, instead of just deleting it. Could you at least transfer it to [9], these sections are not to be simply removed. If you aren’t willing to move it, I understand, its rather tiresome, however don’t just remove them from articles, especially considering that there are literally about 100 Japanese football club articles with these sections. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 10:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how to transfer it, but if lots of Japanese football clubs have this, they all need to be removed. Pictures of kits clearly violate WP:NOTGALLERY. SportingFlyer T·C 13:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

mfd

Hi, sorry for this, I hadn't time to reply and then forgot about it but noticed now when it was closed, would it be possible to relist the "User talk:37.172.90.185‎" mfd just once so I can at least reply to things like "not an appropriate use of MFD" and express myself better as calling it "inappropriate use of MFD" looks inappropriate imo. Result most likely will not change but I feel bad with the impression it left. Tehonk (talk) 22:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. The consensus was clear enough and relisting discussions for that reason is just not something that's done here. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Users preventing the update of the Bojana article

Hi @Pppery. Since at some point, you've been following the discussion about the "Requested move" of Bojana (river), I wanted to inform you that an editor legitimately asked for the etymology of the Slavic form, which I provided using two reliable sources. One of these is Petar Skok, who was a very reputable expert in his field, while the other was a renowned linguist of his time who, despite his Serbian origins, lived in France and sometimes published in French (BnF data: [10]). However, other editors, all of them supporting the move, have reverted everything, using dubious arguments such as "fringe", "crap", "nonsense", "biased", "extraordinary", "outdated" and so on. One of them has already reverted 3 times in less than 24 hours. I've already given my arguments in the Talk page or in my edit summaries, and what I think is that the discussion, which is a mess as you have seen for yourself, will lead nowhere. It seems to me that these users simply don't seem to want a new explanation to appear in the Etymology section of the page, an attitude which clearly goes against WP:NPOV. Krisitor (talk) 14:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not interested in engaging further with this. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SpongeBob disambiguation history

Please restore all deleted revisions of page SpongeBob SquarePants (disambiguation) to complete the page history. 134.199.113.124 (talk) 14:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done * Pppery * it has begun... 16:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just to let you know I reverted your last edit to the above as it introduced an error at Wikipedia:About. I know nothing about these things, so maybe there's a way to achieve what you wish without the collateral damage.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed. Taking a look. The edit seemed to me like it couldn't possibly break anything, and it was requested by a template editor who I generally think knows what their doing, so I implemented it without taking as close a look as I should have apparently. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notice

The file File:New Logo CWGC.jpg has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

redundant to SVG file

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated files}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated files}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. 185.172.241.184 (talk) 06:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Macbeth

Thank you for fixing links to Macbeth (opera), but hundreds are left. Will you fix those as well soon? I think in case of a move to a new name without a redirect, the links should be fixed first, before the move leads to nonsense in hundreds of cases. I'd like to hope that's all an April Fool's joke, but the pedantic name change seems to be planned to stay, sigh. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like this has been handled by others. And the reason I did things the way I did is that there is a process to ensure links to disambiguation pages get fixed whereas nothing would prevent everyone from just losing interest if that step isn't done. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roxbury Mall

Can you restore all deleted revisions of page Roxbury Mall, then add the {{R with history}} tag to the redirect page. 134.199.113.124 (talk) 22:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see the point. Take this to WP:REFUND if you really insist, but there's nothing there but a single sentence in the PROD-deleted version and I don't consider myself to have the authority to unilaterally undelete the AfD-deleted version. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:The Crimean slave trade

Hello, Pppery! I noticed you removed the deletion request from Draft:The Crimean slave trade with the motivation: "Sorry, I don't see any specific speedy deletion criterion this meets. Conduct allegations are not a reason for speedy deletion - take them up in the appropriate venues for them", so I was wondering if I might ask you: what would be the appropriate venues for them? I am concerned about this page that should be deleted for a number of reasons, but since I mainly write articles and rarely do anything else in Wikipedia, I am unaware to which page I should go, or which template to use. Could you be kind enough to help? It would be very much appreciated. My best greetings, --Aciram (talk) 08:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want the page deleted you will have to take it to WP:MFD. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) @Aciram: Besides which, you should never use the {{db-reason}} template directly. Speedy deletion is only permitted for the various criteria that are explicitly described at WP:CSD; each criterion has one or more criterion-specific templates. If a page matches one of the CSD criteria, you should use one of the associated templates; if a page does not match any of the CSD criteria, it's not eligible for speedy deletion. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your reply!--Aciram (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting false information in RCTI article

Mr. @Pppery, please revert these false information about sports programming on RCTI article like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RCTI&diff=prev&oldid=1185395353&title=RCTI&diffonly=1 because it is unsourced.... Thanks.... 36.78.197.139 (talk) 13:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop spamming me with random requests I have had no involvement in. Use {{Edit semi-protected}} or follow proper dispute resolution processes. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, what else is needed to give notoriety to this article Noam Bettan since for me the relevance is demonstrated, it has a biography, musical singles, an album, it is signed with the record company in its country, it is in the top of the most heard in Israel He served in the army, and is on the Hebrew wiki. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 16:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you WP:CANVASSing me? * Pppery * it has begun... 16:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PSASBR nomination

Sorry about that. I ran out of ideas. Zenphia1 (talk) 16:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. I was just closing all joke nominations that somehow hadn't been closed yet, thinking that the truly funny ones would have had a jocular closure already. I later switched to the more neutral "April Fools Day is Over". * Pppery * it has begun... 18:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Diligence in your work...Thanks for your contributions to RM (Requested Moves). Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect The Face (TV series) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 7 § The Face (TV series) until a consensus is reached. 162 etc. (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ames Department Store histmerge

can you perform a histmerge of deleted revisions of Ames Department Stores into Ames (department store) per the histmerge tag? 134.199.113.124 (talk) 18:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's one deleted edit, and its sole content is [[Category:Defunct companies]]. It's an utter waste of time to history merge that. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Partially disambiguated page names

Thank you for all the good work pouring worms back into the can I opened. For the ambiguous Bhavana (actress), existing redirect Bhavana (Malayalam actress) might work, though Bhavana (Kannada actress) appeared in one Malayalam film Otta. Fossa (animal) I think is correct, or at least acceptable: the alternative meaning is Fossa (genus) and both obey our conventions for disambiguating taxonomy: Mammal genera are often qualified by (genus), though there are a few (mammal)s in there and more specific qualifiers such as (bat) in the subcats. Thanks again, Certes (talk) 08:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem I was referring to is how to disambiguate Bhavana (Kannada actress) versus the other actress who is an Indian actress who predominantly appears in Malayalam and Kannada language films. For the Malayalam actress I prefer Bhavana (actress, born 1980). The only thing I can think of there is to invoke WP:NATURALDIS and move her to the less common but still used Bhavana Ramanna.
For Fossa (animal), I agree Malagasy civet is fine as is but given that there are other scientific names disambiguated as (animal) it would be reasonable to expect Fossa to be the same, which makes it partially disambiguated. Like Praya_(animal), Eunoe (animal), and others. See also User:Estopedist1/Taxons and disambiguation * Pppery * it has begun... 14:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I see the problems. Skipping those two still leaves this exercise doing a lot of good, even if it doesn't achieve perfection (and if it did, new errors would soon arise). I regularly fix taxon links and User:Estopedist1/Taxons and disambiguation is a useful resource I didn't know about. Certes (talk) 15:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for splitting both Aventurero pages. For splitting Aventurero the album by Frank Reyes and Aventurero the song by Thalía from each other. Also, thanks for keeping on Wiki the album page of the album. I wasn't aware that I had I did was considered hijacking. Thanks for your help. I am glad that the album page got to stay, especially because the album is from one of Bachata and Dominican Republic's most well known musical artist. DominicanWikiEdit1996 (talk) 01:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft restorations

Hello, Pppery,

When you restore a draft that has been deleted due to CSD G13, you have to make a minor edit to the page or it is immediately eligible for speedy deletion again. There is a list of draft pages where this needs to be done at User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible.

If you help out at WP:REFUND, you'll find most admins use User:SD0001/RFUD-helper to avoid having to handle this step manually. As far as I know, these "minor edits" after page restoration are just required for CSD G13s. But if you restore PRODs and articles deleted through AFDs, then those deletion tags need to be removed after restoration. Thanks very much. Liz Read! Talk! 01:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ask assistant

I am trying to add a location map template to Amazigh Wikipedia and I am facing a problem.

Lua error in Module:Location_map at line 402: No value was provided for longitude.

https://zgh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Location_map

https://zgh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%B4%B0%E2%B5%8D%E2%B4%B1%E2%B5%93%E2%B4%B9:%E2%B4%B0%E2%B5%8F%E2%B5%99%E2%B4%B0_%E2%B4%B3_%E2%B5%9C%E2%B4%BD%E2%B4%B0%E2%B5%95%E2%B4%B9%E2%B4%B0 ⵕⴰⵊⵉ (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I asking you for help because I saw that you contributed to the English template.
Thank you in advance ⵕⴰⵊⵉ (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've fixed that error. You're doing something else funky there that I don't understand, though. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you very much ⵕⴰⵊⵉ (talk) 18:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Steward

Thank you for creating hundreds of links to disambiguation pages. I leave it to you to clean this mess up. The Banner talk 10:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed most of the links. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Rani Hazarika (singer)

Hello Pppery, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rani Hazarika (singer), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: not substantially identical. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've sent it to AfD. But for the record this template message is unideal - I was not patrolling new pages when I tagged this but instead looking specifically for salted pages created under new titles. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Sanket Mhatre (voice actor)

Hello Pppery, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sanket Mhatre (voice actor), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: not substantially identical. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Monument Mythos Speedy Deletion

Howdy - I'm Dellveloper, the dude who put the speedy deletion request on the MM draft. As per a request from the person who created the series that the draft involves, deletion is requested. Please do a speedy deletion on that article as per his wishes. Thanks! DeIIveloper (talk) 01:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a reason for speedy deletion. The criterion you used, WP:G7, only applies if the sole author of the draft requests deletion, and since that draft has been substantively edited by many people that criterion cannot apply. You are welcome to take it to WP:MFD. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks. DeIIveloper (talk) 01:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Abdur Rahim (politician) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 13 § Abdur Rahim (politician) until a consensus is reached. Crampcomes (talk) 12:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tradition (PSL)

Can you restore all deleted revisions of page Tradition (Port St. Lucie), then tag it with the R with history template. 134.199.113.124 (talk) 15:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, but please take these to WP:REFUND in the future rather than bothering me. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added some references to Aide et Action International South Asia and removed the prod that you had added. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 11:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of cult films

Hi, regarding list of cult films and the deletion review, I assume the {{delrev}} template should be removed now? And does the talk page need to be updated with info about the discussion? I couldn't tell from the documentation how it should be added with the AfD discussions (or separately). Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 12:26, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the delrev template from the base page. I don't think it needs to be mentioned on the talk page - it's already linked from the AfD and that's sufficient. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Salted prods

I'm not sure WP:PROD is the right venue for deleting recreations of previously deleted articles. Do we need a stronger remedy than the WP:SOFTDELETE offered at prod? Have you tried WP:G4? ~Kvng (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did try G4 in may cases. For the ones I PRODed G4 doesn't apply because there was no prior AfD (only prior speedy deletions under criteria that don't seem to apply to the new version), and either the original creator is long-gone or the creation was so long ago that I think it's unlikely there will be new interest in recreating. I also G4-ed 11 articles and AfD-ed 30 in that same cleanup run. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for the explanation. I deprodded PROS (company) before I saw there was a pattern. That will need to go to AfD. ~Kvng (talk) 16:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I took it to AfD already. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Kiolbassa Sausage, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! -- Lenny Marks (talk) 21:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]