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Resubmission of "Call to Arms - Gates of Hell: Ostfront
Unaccustomed as I am with the process of resubmitting I feel I need to comment why I resubmitted the page for Call to Arms - Gates of Hell, as that might be unclear. The name of the article was edited to reflect the correct name of the game that is being described. After review it was (rightfully) stated that instead of creating a separate page, this information should be edited into an existing page (Call to Arms). However, a change took place and this is no longer the case; Call to Arms - Gates of Hell is now sold as a separate title and is no longer an expansion. Thanks! ACG Snafu (talk) 14:13, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- @ACG Snafu: Unfortunately, that doesn't really matter, it still doesn't seem to have gotten new coverage in the (reliable) press and continues not to be notable. Therefore I have my doubts it will merit a standalone page in the near future if ever.
- To be perfectly honest, I'm not entirely sure if the base game itself is notable. I referred you to the base game because it was the most obvious target to put the information, but its sourcing is largely limited to rather minor updates and changelogs. You may want to track down the 3 absolute best sources you can find and put them here in order to demonstrate it passes WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Crono
Out of curiosity, did you notice the need for a histmerge before or after you did the page swap? Primefac (talk) 07:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Before. However, I assumed it would have been worse to just cut 'n' paste the new page onto the old. I assumed the correct course of action was to move the new page into place and then put the old page's history on it. If that was wrong, let me know. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's generally a lot easier to do a histmerge before any page moves are involved (often because the histmerge itself will include a page move). Not the end of the world, and there are always exceptions (and places to explain complex histmerge requests), just wanted to know how we got where we got this morning :-) Primefac (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Got it, I was entirely unaware of that. I will do any history merge before a page move if I come across that in the future. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's generally a lot easier to do a histmerge before any page moves are involved (often because the histmerge itself will include a page move). Not the end of the world, and there are always exceptions (and places to explain complex histmerge requests), just wanted to know how we got where we got this morning :-) Primefac (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
I may disagree with the notability tag, but as the page creator, I'm in no place to remove it. But, you did raise an excellent point about titling the page -- would you keep to company name to its registered spelling of "GOALS AB" (all-caps)? I ask, because both the company & game are registered in all-caps and the company may be treated differently from the game with the naming conventions here on Wikipedia. BOTTO (T•C) 18:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Botto: According to the manual of style, the company must also be written as "Goals AB" unless there is an acronym. See MOS:ALLCAPS. A vast number of trademarks are capitalized solely to stand out and it would be confusing if Wikipedia treated them all in the same way it does acronyms. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
The article Warbits you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Warbits for comments about the article, and Talk:Warbits/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 13:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
King K. Rool new AfD
Hi Zxcvbnm, a deletion review for King K. Rool was conducted at the request of an editor. The consensus was that the original debate was correctly closed, however there is potential new information to consider. As a participant in the original AfD, I invite you to participate in the new AfD if you would like. The new AfD is located at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King K. Rool (2nd nomination); please also see my comments at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 February 19. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 23:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Re: FF
I still feel the WoR and others are a bit rough...but I recognize you have some decent ideas in there too. And well consider this an olive branch after our recent throwdown: this talks about a broader subject, but has a pretty good paragraph on the WoR, and it's comparison to Dark Souls' world. This may be worth digging into too. A bit more examination here in a published source.
Hope these help. I still feel the Amazon holds up btw, and hopefully will be able to see how a GAN takes to it. But that's another kettle of fish. :P Let you know if I find anything else. Kung Fu Man (talk) 00:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think the Kill Screen article could certainly be called an example of SIGCOV, so thanks for bringing that up. I don't have access to the journal article, but I'm not really feeling the other one - it only mentions the World of Ruin in passing, and say "the player's job is to reverse this process", which is not really true. Even other sources mention the fact that the apocalypse is irreversible, which is part of what makes it so shocking. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll keep an eye out all the same. SIGCOV in my eyes is a lot more "can I gleam a tangible thought from this that actually gives insight on how someone felt, preferably in multiple sentences?" That's why I'm always mindful of the Death by 1000 Cuts Approach to these (i.e. Lucario): sometimes you just ain't gonna get a huge bit of discussion on a subject, but you can still illustrate there was significant coverage across multiple sources with unique thoughts and angles.
- Honestly if we didn't...there'd be a lot less fighting game character articles overall to say the least.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 01:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your help.
I understand now why the Radiant Residents wiki page isn't accepted. There isn't enough notable sources from professional review sources to consider the game "notable". I will wait until there is more of that before trying to create the Article again. Sorry for any inconvenience! CPT78999 (talk) 18:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- @CPT78999: If it does get some kind of significant coverage in a reliable source in the future you can add it to List of Roblox games. Right now though, it probably shouldn't be mentioned at all on Wikipedia, it's far too minor. It's just how notability works unfortunately. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Question
Brookhaven is one of the most popular Roblox games today. It has 40 Billion visits, and plenty of Professional reviews. Could I make an article on that? CPT78999 (talk) 20:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- If I may butt in, the Wikipedia is really not the place for video game fan content unless it has been covered by actual reliable sources, and it appears this Roblox stuff doesn't cut it. Have you considered joining fandom.com's site and contributing there? This Brookhaven thing for example, has a site at official-brookhaven.fandom.com/wiki/Brookhaven. Zaathras (talk) 00:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but some Roblox games are notable enough, and have enough professional reviews to have official pages. For example, Adopt Me has a page. So why shouldn't Brookhavne have a page, or Doors, or Blox Fruits. I feel like anything that is successful enough, or has a big enough public eye should have a Wikipedia page. CPT78999 (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- What you "feel" is not relevant, the Wikipedia has policies and rules on notablity and reliable sources that must be adhered to. Zaathras (talk) 00:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but some Roblox games are notable enough, and have enough professional reviews to have official pages. For example, Adopt Me has a page. So why shouldn't Brookhavne have a page, or Doors, or Blox Fruits. I feel like anything that is successful enough, or has a big enough public eye should have a Wikipedia page. CPT78999 (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
- Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
- Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
- Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
- Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
- Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
- Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
- Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
- Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
- Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
- Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
- Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
- Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
- Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
- Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
- Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
- Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
- Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:
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Platform holder
Hi there. Couldn't we have expanded the platform holder article instead of just reducing to a redirect in a glossary? I spent a lot of time to create the article and find sources for it. It feels a little defeating to have done all that for basically nothing. Osh33m (talk) 14:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Osh33m: Unfortunately "platform holder" is too narrow a concept to work, and what was in the article at that point was a pure WP:DICDEF. However it doesn't have to be for nothing. You are free to integrate the information at Video game#Platform. If it grows too large, you may be able to start a split discussion. However, at most I can see Video game platform becoming an article after it becomes big enough a split is required. "Platform holder" will likely still be an untenable concept for an article as it is simply a buzzword referring to a company that owns a platform. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
CSD G6s
Hello, Zxcvbnm,
Please tag these pages using Twinkle and select CSD>G6 Move and, in the field, put the name of the draft you want moved. There needs to be a live link so the patrolling admins don't need to cut and paste the name of the page in the search bar. Then an admin can review the draft, delete the redirect and move the article swiftly. Otherwise, your request is likely to sit for quite a while until someone gets to it. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz: I have the ability to do a pageswap myself if I really wanted to. But, specifically, I tag these unnecessary redirects for deletion so that I can actually run the draft approval script rather than having to do everything manually. I don't mind waiting extra time, otherwise I'd just do it immediately. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Torrent (Elden Ring) for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Torrent (Elden Ring) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Kung Fu Man (talk) 08:35, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to withdraw the AfD, not because of your arguments themselves but because I do understand it's a subject that matters to you, and looking online upcoming DLC may offer reception, and an AfD would just make that harder. I am saying this privately though because I truly do feel you need to examine the consistency of your stances: it does feel hypocritical in how you argue and go after other subjects (including just recently), something that's been brought up to you before by myself and others. A consistent view would help a lot, both for other editors and your own work.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:40, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, obviously the article is important to me - I wrote the whole thing! I'm not sure why I'd spend hours writing an article just to immediately be fine with its deletion.
- I'm a bit conflicted on the withdrawal - you clearly aren't changing your stance on the current article at all. I do hope that it gets more reception upon the DLC's release, but I also hope that this will not be used to, in essence, "deny me the win".
- According to the AfD stats tool, I have an 80% rate of correct !votes and a 75% success rate for articles I nominated. This, to me, does not indicate hypocritical behavior, as I'd expect them to be far more all over the place if I was solely !voting based on personal preference. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Zx, it's just me just doing a nice gesture. Your article going down isn't a "win" for me and if you think I see it as such then you're not only assuming some really bad faith ,you've really got your head in the wrong game.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Explanation for recent action
Could you explain to me why my article for Gran Turismo for Boys does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines? WikiBunny2K1 (talk) 22:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiBunny2K1: When you created it, it had 3 articles from IGN (counts as a single source, per WP:GNG), and 2 interviews (WP:PRIMARY sources, per GNG), making it not pass notability guidelines. As it only had a single secondary source, IGN.
- The idea of the IGN source being significant is also dubious. I recently worked on an article called True Fantasy Live Online that was also a cancelled game, but that had indepth development and gameplay information, while the sources in this article are just news posts with very brief info. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, thank you for the clarification. WikiBunny2K1 (talk) 23:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)