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Muisca raft

I've listed this article for peer review because I'm hoping for GA down the line. I'm not asking for an in-depth review at this time (it's probably too soon for that), but rather a quick read and big picture comments. My main question: is there anything big that's totally missing? Grateful for your direction on where to focus my efforts.

Thanks, GuineaPig_C77 (𒅗𒌤) ☕ 07:32, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Z1720

Not completing a deep read, but instead did a quick scan for major problems. Some things to consider:

"Father Santamaría arranged for the object to be acquired by the Bank of the Republic and placed in the Gold Museum[35] where it remains." Does cite 35 verify "where it remains"? If so, the cite should be at the end of the sentence. If not, a new citation is needed or it needs to be removed.
The looting section is mainly a block quote. Is this necessary, or can the information be summarised?
Many of your harv refs are broken, and do not point to the correct location.
"who established one of the great civilisations in the Americas" opinionated statements like this are not in WP:WIKIVOICE and should probably be removed.
Use Template:Convert for measurements to include imperial measurements

I hope this helps. Z1720 (talk) 03:37, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much Z1720 for your comments. This is exactly the kind of guidance I was looking for. I'll work on addressing each of these issues. GuineaPig_C77 (𒅗𒌤) ☕ 10:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Richard3120

I live in Bogota, and have seen this piece several times in the Gold Museum, so I'm quite familiar with it. Generally I think the article covers everything... there were two points that struck me while reading it:

I'm not sure you need to add a citation after every clause or sentence. For example, references 43 and 48 each appear consecutively three times after three clauses... I think they could just be cited once at the end of the three clauses, having so many citations in the text is a bit distracting.
Check the guidance at WP:GALLERY... I'm not sure so many pictures of the raft from different angles would be allowed in a GA-article.

Otherwise, this is a really good piece of work. :-) Richard3120 (talk) 01:30, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your comments @Richard3120! Your point about excessive citations is well-taken; as I'm going through fixing citations per Z1720's comment, I will combine identical citations and generally try to dial it back. I'll also check WP:GALLERY and make the necessary adjustments.

Note that I am in the process of inquiring whether the museum can provide additional photos. I am aware of excellent photos found in this source:

Uribe Villegas, María Alicia; Martinón-Torres, Marcos; Quintero Guzmán, Juan Pablo (2021). "The Muisca Raft: Context, Materiality and Technology" (PDF). In McEwan, Colin; Hoopes, John W. (eds.). Pre-Columbian Central America, Colombia, and Ecuador : toward an integrated approach. Dumbarton Oaks. pp. 275–303.

And I'm currently trying to figure out how to use those photos. In the meantime, if the gallery has too many angles, I will scale back.

Thanks again! Jealous that you get to see it in person! GuineaPig_C77 (𒅗𒌤) ☕ 05:49, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, and I might need to post this at the top of the review, but I just discovered that an old version of the lead was blatant plagiarism from this website. The lead has been re-worked several times, but remnants of the lifted material were still present. I just did an emergency edit to remove all remnants. I opened a discussion on the article's talk page. GuineaPig_C77 (𒅗𒌤) ☕ 05:56, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Z1720, Richard3120, I believe I’ve addressed all of the concerns you raised here. Thanks again to both of you for your time. I think this article is much better now. I’m going to close the review and try out GAN. Thanks! GuineaPig_C77 (𒅗𒌤) ☕ 04:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]